Podcast and Chill with MacG

00:01 To advertise, email, podcast at thisismaggie.com. Release yourself from order and logic and enter a new place. It's not work. It's not home. Here, no maps have been drawn. No books have been written. Nothing is certain. Everything is possible. Welcome to Podcast and Chill with Maggi. 00:29 I'm assuming this doesn't end well. 00:37 Yeah, no, it's tricky. I mean, listen, let's not even beat around the bush, man. We were just talking about this. News 24, right? 00:58 This News 24 story about, you know, our late brother, Super Mega, Keenan, and the whole Anele Tembe. That's her last name. Tembe. Yeah. I haven't watched it, but basically my boy, a good friend of mine, Nate Dogg, was telling me basically News 24 was putting the timeline together. 01:21 of the events of that night from, I think, some calls, some video footage from the actual hotel, police reports, whatever is like public knowledge at this point, I think. 01:34 And when it happened, Kenan was on the phone with one of the receptionists downstairs. 01:42 So for me, it kind of, I don't know how you guys feel, but for me, it kind of clears, you know, that whole theory, do you think? Yes. 01:50 I was in a debate with my brother about this because I know Anele personally. Like, I know from when she was a kid. And I got the privilege to meet, aka for the first time, at the funeral. You know what I mean? So... 02:02 I can't say too much because there's a lot of sensitivity around it, but my stance when I was speaking to my brother was, why are they doing it now? Why is News24 doing this whole thing now? Yeah, I mean, both the people have passed on already, but what's the motive? What's the goal? Are they trying to paint, aka, in a specific way? Because even if we get the facts, let's say, because there's an interview he also did, and in the interview he said that after Anele jumped, Because that's what he said, right, in the interview. 02:30 He frantically ran out and knocked crying to one of his boys' door. But on the videos, this footage, we don't see him come out of the room, not once. 02:41 Actually, I kind of got a glimpse of the footage. 02:45 So, yeah, I think what is their goal? What are they trying to do is my whole... That's where I'm coming from. 02:51 Do you think they need a goal? I think... 02:54 especially with media houses, their goal is to make money off of content. 02:57 Ah, so they're just trying to make money off. Right? 02:59 It's like, what's Netflix's goal? Netflix's goal is to make money off of content. You know what I mean? They have no underlying, like, cultural, like, you know what I mean? 03:07 But that's not what his father is saying. That's what, not who? Okay, I'm alleged or what I've heard. That's what, whose father's? AKA his father is saying, okay, bring it to News 24. 03:18 Mahal, do we have a clip? 03:21 He's saying, bring it. Like, if you guys want to take it there, take it there. But it also has, like, a subtle undertone of, we know where this is actually coming from. It's not just... We know who is behind, you know, type of thing. That's his point of view. Yeah. 03:34 From what it seems like... What the propaganda is... That's what I'm saying. 03:38 What are they trying to... What's the actual back... Why now? Why... Both of these people are gone. 03:42 I mean, but I think that's kind of unfair to be like, why now, right? 03:45 They're not going to make money, bro. They're not going to make money. 03:47 But let me... No, they are going to make money. That's what I'm trying to say. Okay. If you say what's News24's goal, I will say to make money, right? Because they are a media house. Okay. What does a media house do? They post as much... 04:02 content, riveting content that brings people to their platform so they can either get you behind the paywall or they can run adverts from other companies. That's how they make money. You get what I'm saying? So a documentary that's 50 years later is what they do. Like Netflix, right? Right now, I was watching a documentary about the cruise ship. There's this cruise ship that, that, that, I don't know, this guy must have been drunk or whatnot, right? 04:33 Like hundreds of, it's, it's on, it's on Netflix. I don't know. But, but this, this ship was like, you know, a huge ass cruise ship, dog, like 600, 800 people, dog. Like it's capsizing over like an amount of hours and a lot of people died. Right. But that thing happened in like 2012, I think it was. Yeah. But they only released the documentary for it now. Why? So they can make money. Because when someone like me is flipping through and they're like, oh, shit. You'll stop. People did what? It's like the New Age Titanic. Oh, I'm watching that. You get what I'm saying? 05:02 Okay, okay. You know what I mean? So just a quick one. With regards to the timing, right? So what was happening currently is that this week there was supposed to be an inquest. 05:13 around the Annele Temer's unfortunate demise. Okay. So the whole idea is that they're kind of like revisiting the story. They're revisiting the investigation. They've subpoenaed six people who have to come and speak in court and tell their side of the story. We know who those six are. right so now what had happened is I believe that maybe this was already public information as then to be corrected but it seems like News24 knew that this was coming and then they wanted to kind of capitalize monetize you see what I'm saying so now that's advertising right now that's like okay why now 05:53 Because they wanted to ride off the wave of whatever. Let's play that video. 05:59 Damn, bro. 06:00 Yo, bro. It would have been a crazy reality if these two actually worked. Beyonce and Jay-Z on another level. 06:07 Text messages have emerged ahead of the Anele Tembe inquest. One exchange is between rapper Kuno, a.k.a. Forbes, and a Tembe family lawyer on the day of an earlier incident at the Hilton Hotel where Anele was reportedly threatening to jump from a building. Another chat between Anele and a.k.a. includes messages in which she speaks about trying to take her own life, warning that if there was a next time, she would do it for good. The Tembe family says the messages raise new questions. 06:40 They want the NPA to investigate alleged differences between the lawyer's affidavit and the text messages. 06:50 The Tembe family is saying what? 06:53 They're saying that the affidavit that they got from the lawyer is different from what? 06:57 That's tricky. 06:59 Yeah, a lot of trickiness. So that inquest is still happening, right? 07:05 So I saw earlier today that the inquest, I just want to double check the source, but the inquest has been moved to September. 07:15 Oh. Yeah. 07:17 Well, how do you feel about that, Vinny? 07:20 You just saw me inquiring. 07:23 That's not my dog. I don't know, man. It's just. 07:29 Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. News 24 is taking it. Yeah. Yeah. You know, they're taking it far, but you never know. They've been on a roll. Yeah, I mean. 07:38 Yeah, no, they've been on a roll. Otherwise, how are you feeling? 07:42 I mean, I'm alive. You're alive. 07:44 Yes. Come on. 07:46 Shout out for joining us, man. 07:48 Yeah, no, shout out, shout out, shout out for joining us. Shout out for joining us. This is another one that I manifested. And you know, like I was, I was with you, I think at BANA. 07:59 Yeah. 08:00 And I was like, yo, Vinny, dog, you need to come through. And you're like, actually, I haven't done it in a long time. 08:06 I'm going to come through. And this is before any of this shit happened, right? This is before any of this shit happened. 08:11 We were just like smoking outside of Panam. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A hundred percent. 08:14 Nothing much, right? Oh, but that night, then we went to... We went to... We watched Bafana Bafana at Celle V. We went to Bellucci. 08:22 Yes, yes, yes. 08:23 And then from Belushi, we went to C'est La Vie and to watch Bafana Bafana. Yeah. And I was like, yo, I was like, yo, I need you here. And you're like, yeah, for sure. Then this shit happened. All right. And I was like, damn, is he, is he, is he gonna, you know, cause I asked him to pull up before this shit happened, you know what I mean? And he said, yeah. And you know what? I couldn't get a, I DM'd you, no response. I called you, no response. And then I get a ring from my random number. Yeah. 08:53 You know what I mean? And the way my WhatsApp is set up Yeah, the way my WhatsApp is set up is if I don't have your number Yeah It doesn't go through Maybe it just rings once and it queers you, you know? Then you text it and you're like, yo, dog, it's Vinny And I was like, yo Then I spoke to my production and I was like, yo It's either Vinny wants to tune me out for our episode Previous one, yeah Or he wants to pull up Yeah And then you were like, nah, I want to pull up. And I was like, oh, shit. Let's do it. 09:23 Oh, that's fine. 09:24 So shout out for actually, you know, sticking to your mandate. 09:27 Can I just say, bro, like, I really fuck with that. Like, on a genuine tip, one of the boys who Bonko, you know, we had discussed a while back before the whole ordeal came out. Similar, very similar thing that he's pulling through to the show. But as soon as that came up, it just became like, hey, man, you know, I don't want to... So shout out to you, man. For real. For pulling out. 09:47 Yeah, I think... Respect that. I think, you know, we always have this debate about like who's crazy, actors or... I think we're all equal. All musicians, right? And I would say... I would say between actors and musicians... 10:00 I think we're crazy enough to come and sit down. 10:05 It might be a good move for him because he knows the industry he's in. He knows the people he's rubbing shoulders with. And it's going to make things more uncomfortable. 10:16 On this side of the world, on our world, a lot of this is built by ourselves. A lot of the success is self-made. And not to say that people don't rise you up. But if Vinny didn't decide to become Uncle Vinny, 10:31 no Uncle Vinny would be here and the thing is I got a question you stopped me last week and you corrected me so I want to hear it from the horse's mouth Vinny who put you on I know it was a collective but I want to hear it from you who was your plug yes can we get it from the horse's mouth though 10:48 Oh, God. We're going to start there. I watched the interview, of course. Oh, fine. Yeah, yeah. Oh, come on. I was, of course, on the internet trying to see what's really happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, I was in my little hiatus. You know? Yeah. 11:06 I mean, Chuck is not really long, I mean, per se. I mean, I've known Chuck, but YS was also like... 11:16 also like a lot of people that have been like who helped me along the line you know like Chok 100% Chok was one of the first celebrities like most probably I had a good interview with Ben and he told me when we were at SNCC exchange and Rikki was actually performing that side and then also mums I could say also Auntie B also put me on because by that time Auntie B was writing for you also was also there saying yo Ricky you need to talk to this kid because at that day Auntie B was there at the gig at the sneaker exchange it seems like everyone is trying to push you towards Ricky Yeah, yeah, yeah. 11:51 I mean, at some point, like, it was like, it was like that because I would always be there wherever he was, you know, like any pop-up or anything because all the kids at some, we all believe like, yo, this is the guy, you know what I mean? His Instagram was like, kind of so cool and at that time there was no but he was doing it like in SA like the way Ricky was doing it like it's just yeah just way completely different bro like guy was driving Ferraris G wagons like like going to France Paris like shit that you've never seen in your life like counting like millions in the bank like some real rapper shit like like some real real shit you wanted to be like that 12:30 You wanted to be like the young Ricky. 12:32 Bro, like, come on. I don't think in my life there's, sorry, like to say it, like, I think this could be controversial, but nobody can be cooler than Ricky in this fucking country. Like the way Molus was, was bro. That guy is like, deserves his own statue. 12:48 And I think a lot of people don't understand why a lot of us say that. Yeah. They think we're talking about like the exterior. Nah, man. You know, the aesthetic. And nah, dog. Like, listen. There was something about Ricky. 13:02 How humble he was. Bro. Didn't mind being. Like, you know, a lot of people are... 13:10 very quick to be like, hey, this is my space. No one can enter it. Yo, Ricky was like the opposite. You know what I mean? Ricky was like totally the opposite. And I think that's where I get it from. He taught me that, yo, I'll be one man and I'll go wherever I want to go, nigga. And no one's going to do anything because they got love for me. They all recognize who I am, but they got that respect for me. That's why I move everywhere alone. I'm like, yeah. Actually, one day I came with security. Ricky literally looked at me. Yeah. He's like, nigga, what the fuck are you doing? 13:41 You look ridiculous. You look ridiculous. You look ridiculous. You look ridiculous. Really? Like, what are you doing? Like, he hated security. Like, hated security. We were in security. That's the problem. Because now you have to be in security. Yes, now you have to be in security. And he wouldn't... Which show we went, like, I realized we didn't have tickets. I think it was this Java show. And then I just forgot, like, fuck, I'm actually walking with Ricky Rick, like... 14:07 This guy just walked in at the show, bro. Like, no tag, no nothing. Then this guy was like, okay, I'm hungry. I want to go have a breakfast roll. And like, he made us like walk the whole San Pedro to go have a breakfast roll. And you must understand, everybody was just like following, bro. And I was just like, dog, like, you really don't want to invest in security. Like, just like, even one nigga, like, he bought his breakfast roll, he ate, it was fine, took pictures, took pictures and died. 14:31 done everything everything was just so chilled man so you guys are kind of if i'm correct me if i'm wrong you guys are kind of like ricky's sons ricky is my brother i'm not i'm not he's not my pops he's that's pops he's that's my brother you know what i mean that's big bro for me it's dad yeah i knew you weren't gonna say yes me and ricky met in the dust 14:58 Nah, you guys, yeah. 14:59 I haven't met Rookie Man in the Dust before, all that flashy shit. I mean, he was always a jiggy nigga. Like, he's one of the first niggas I met that always carried a brush and was like constantly brushing his hair for the waves. You know what I mean? Like, he was like that. 15:13 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in fashion also, I mean, I'm looking at, there's only a few people who do it and get it right. And when they do, it's freaking out. out of here like nobody can compete and Ricky was like ahead of his time yeah always I see always people always always dapping you up I'm also dapping you up also about your drip man niggas that actually take the time to care shout out to people like thank you who's just uh Maclera dope boy he's doing it in his own way he's in his own way his lyrics is everything it's just him you take time to take care of your your craft and that's beautiful to see man yeah you know I'll still do that the whole security thing yeah aka He'd just pull up with the whole security thing. 15:50 It wouldn't stop at the gate, even if he had a tag with him. 15:54 That was aka his like demeanor. That was aka his aura. Like if you know Keenan, like super mega, like bro, like you hear the name, super mega. He has the weight. 16:05 That was... Yeah, with Keenan, you hate him or love him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not in the middle. You know what I mean? I loved him. 16:13 What's the line when I pull up at the traffic light? Something about pull up in the traffic light. Do you know? You have to decide if you like me if I pull up to the traffic light. 16:20 Is this Keenan's line? It's Keenan's line, yeah. You know, Keenan always has the craziest lines in the songs, bro. He was about it, bro. 16:26 But was it about the bars or about the, you know, the mag? All of it. All of it, bro. Bars also. Kenan, you don't know that Kenan's about the bars. 16:36 Nah, I don't... Because we had this conversation, like, many, many episodes ago, where we were talking about... I think I remember, and you said that. Cass or Kenan, when it came to the bars, and we were all like, nah, Kenan, when it comes to the bars, like, Kenan definitely cares. 16:49 But, like, rap bars or... Yeah, bars. Like, commercial. He's rapping. So, I don't know, like, he's rapping. So, like... 16:56 Who's this? Drake got bars. 16:58 Yeah. 16:58 Right? But Kendrick got bars, like rap bars. You know, like double and triple, quadruple. 17:04 I think it's what type of style you like. Yeah. I think it's what type of style you like at the end of the day. Kendrick can be a little too heavy for me, bro. Yeah, you're right. 17:12 You say something. It's preference. You know what I mean? Like, you know, sometimes I'm just trying to relax. You prefer Drake? I love Drake. 17:17 Yeah, because the bars are there. You prefer Drake also? I prefer Drake because you can relax, have a good time, and have bars. Yeah. 17:23 You know what I'm saying? Like, yo. 17:25 And it's light bars, but it's the bars that make you smile. It's those bars that, you know, you're like, hey. It's like inspirational bars. Yeah. I get you. Yeah. There's every song for Drake. There's a love song. 17:35 There's a song for the struggles. Shut up. 17:37 I don't want to take too long because we have so much to talk about this episode. Yeah, we really do. But to break the ice, we're going to bring out the smoky bowl. 17:44 That's what we're calling it. The smoky bowl. The smoky bowl. The smoky bowl. 17:47 Smoke bowl. Smoke bowl. Take one. 17:48 Pass it down. Okay. 17:52 if you don't want to answer any questions during the show, you take a shot, now? If you want to take a shot for fun, you can take a shot. Okay. But, if there's any question you get that you don't, whether it's during this or just when we're speaking, you can take a shot, my friend. Who's going first? 18:07 I was still thinking about the whole Drake thing. Okay. Are you still trying to go first? You can, bro. You can. Vinny. Yeah, bro. 18:15 Who was the first famous woman who hit you up and that And that is when you... Okay. Who was the first woman who hit you up that you knew that, okay, now I'm popping? 18:28 Like hit me up in what sense? 18:29 DM, WhatsApp. Like what text or communication that you got from a woman when you knew like, oh, I'm... Who was that woman? 18:43 I've never dated like a popular woman. 18:45 She just slid in. She just slid. Just hit you in. No, even if it's like this. Even if it's like, hey Vinny, I'm having a party. 18:53 Please pull up. And you're like, oh damn. 18:54 Even if it's, yo, Vinny, where you at? Can I pull up at the club with you? Oh, Vinny, come to the club and, you know. I'm sure there was that one honey that hit you that you're like, oh shit. 19:04 Oh no, I think the best... 19:09 I don't know if this could be like a hit-up or whatever. Would you count when somebody has pulled up on your birthday at a club? 19:16 How come? 19:16 I think when Wanang pulled up at the... Oh, shit. That's when you knew. Yo. 19:27 I think that was like, that was tough. Yeah, that was tough. That was tough. I felt it. 19:33 Was this the best where you shut down the whole street? 19:35 Yeah, it was like that year, I think. That year was really prime. Like when she pulled up, I couldn't believe it. I was like, damn. 19:43 Nah, that's proper, yo. Okay. What about your question? 19:46 Nah, I'll go next. 19:48 I'll go next. There you go? Yeah. 19:49 Okay, okay, okay. 19:51 What is something that you've done in your personal life that if a video of it came out or got leaked would end your career instantly? 19:58 I don't have a sex tape no more, so I'm good. 20:02 But... I think if anybody had to leak any video of me, maybe, like, getting drunk on my birthday, I think that would kill me any day. You think it would kill your career? Not really my career now. 20:15 So now you have to take a shot. 20:16 Bro, I don't believe you're getting slapped. Was that AI? 20:18 Let me tell you. 20:19 No, that was real. 20:20 That was real. 20:20 You got slapped. 20:22 Let me tell you. Let me tell you. That's a trick question. Usually... I stop people and I say, bro, listen, if there's any video that someone can post that's going to end your career, why would you tell us what that video is? Oh, fuck. Take a shot, nigga. Oh, no, no. Yeah, you get what I'm saying? Yeah. 20:42 Oh, fuck. 20:44 Now you cut me. You know what I mean? Like, come on. 20:47 Because really, I would never say shit. Come on, nigga. 20:53 Vinny, there's something you just said that just sparked my interest. You said you don't have a sex tape anymore. 21:03 I don't have any six tapes or anything. Oh, relax. Calm down, guys. I don't do that. 21:12 You've never taken a six tape? 21:13 No, no, no, no. Don't do that. Come on, Vinny. 21:16 Come on, Vinny. 21:17 You've all done it. No, no, no. Fuck you. Done it. I swear. You might have deleted it after, but you've all done it, dog. No, no, I can't. You want it when you cut, nigga? I always get scared. Because I lose phone so much. You do it? 21:32 So now Okay that's not a point So now When the phone is lost Somebody has to open it And then they find it And then It's over Jesus it's over You see So I can't Like I can't risk Like even like In the room How do you even start Like taking the phone Unless you're having sex You know How do you guys even do it Yo yo listen Listen listen listen You look in the mirror You've seen yourself in the mirror How do you do it Like I don't know Just like That! Aren't you invested in the activity that's happening there? Aren't you there having fun? 22:03 That's why you're like, yo, hold on, take this. You hold it. You hold it. 22:07 You take this shit. You record us. 22:12 You record us, nigga. 22:13 So you're not into watching, you're like, you've never seen a reflection of yourself and got hyped up or anything like that? No, I'm taking notes. I'm learning from your own thing. 22:21 Yo, but for me, like, yo, for me, it's like, don't you guys feel like it's a part of the experience? Like, guys, when you've been dating someone for so long, or you've had, like, just normal sexual experiences, there's nothing in your head that's like, yo, I want to try that. Oh, ish. I want to, you know? That's just a simple thing you can add to the fun that's like, yo, this is a bit dangerous. There's a camera out. 22:46 Or you could get caught Or something You know what I mean But then delete it Right after dog Like just delete it Right after I don't trust technology One day You can just get Fucked up bro I feel you What's your What's your question Yeah I just want to know You've never ever Done anything risky You're just like One position At home You've never been like In a club Saw a baddie And be like yo Let's get Let's get crazy 23:09 I mean, like, of course, that maybe happened once in a while, you know, there and there, but like, no record? Nah, no tape, no tape. Like, my shit, I'm a very, like, I'm a very discreet nigga. Like, when I do, when I do my shit, like, I feel very discreet. You need to live, bro. 23:26 You need to live, bro. 23:27 Bro, I've been living in my own secret life. You've got your own way. 23:31 Yeah, like, I've got my own way to live it because, you know, 23:34 people just be watching and people just be looking at you with what you're doing some days and then so you have to keep your things like hush hush sometimes you know when you're doing your shit there's first do it for you man and then for you know but that is hush that's in that's in the confines of your own world like 23:50 I just want to confirm. So you're confirming that that sex tape that's like doing the rounds on social media with like... Hell no. No. That's not you. No. Which Lerato is this? Lerato Jordan. 24:03 People think it's him. 24:04 People think it's him. 24:06 Oh, stunt double. 24:08 It's not me, guys. I've had hate, you know? Like, people just really hate me. Like, I don't know why, but just genuinely people just hate me. People hate success, just in general. Yeah, I mean, you can hate success, but there's been a weird hate chain that just comes besides... even addressing anything, you know, like there's just like this weird thing. So people can just like accuse me of having a sex tape when I really be chilling. Maybe I've left Twitter like fucking six years ago or some shit like that. I don't get it. Why are you so easy to hate? 24:39 I don't know. 24:40 I mean, I'm going to be honest with you. The first time I kind of met you, I kind of got some kind of energy too. I don't even lie, bro. You probably don't remember that. I'm going to speak on it. 24:50 But I want him to finish his question and then we can speak on it. Okay. 24:54 What is the wildest thing you have done for the babies? 24:57 Oh, this is to me. 25:07 The wildest things that I've done for the baddies. For the baddies. 25:11 To acquire the baddies. He gets down like that. I'm going to take a shot. 25:17 I'm going to think about it and take a shot. 25:19 You know me for a long time, bro. You've seen me, how I move around. I think I'm a super gangster. I can look in the mirror proudly. 25:33 You know? I mean, baddies have scammed me. Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, I think we understand. Fuck, I hear you. I hear you. 25:39 You might send 5K to a bag. 25:40 You think you're about to link up and she doesn't arrive or, you know, like, oh, shit. That's, I think, the wildest thing. I can be like, damn, I just got played for 5K for nothing. For literally nothing. You know what I mean? 25:51 And then you block me right after. That's the wildest shit. 25:52 but okay the wildest thing like let's say you really like this girl you really want to there's always that wild thing remember a couple of episodes ago I told you when I was like maybe like nine years old I got my ass whooped for honey like I had a concussion like I you know what I mean and I learned my lesson that day so since that day he fishing for the answer he like nah nah I've been a gangster I'm sorry dog that was like the last time I could look in the mirror and be like I fucked up for honey that's the last time I fucked up 26:23 What about you, man? What about you? Anything you done? 26:29 I was the wildest thing I've done for a good I'm sure you've blown a super bag, Doc I'm sure you've I have, I think I have I think I have One time I was very upset Like super, super upset This girl was like not giving me base for it. Like she's not giving me like a time and an opportunity. You know? So I called her to the house. 26:57 called into the house. So I used to have this shoebox that I used to have. So I was so angry. So I said, open the shoebox. And then when she opened the shoebox, then she just saw Rex. And then I said, you know, I'm tired. 27:14 You better go by yourself. Because I'd been once in discussions. So you said, yo, take that money. You said, take that money now. I said, yo, it's only going to take this money because I was never a nigga like him. 27:27 I was so young I think I was like 18 or 19 and it was like I think that time it was but for this proper scam like maybe a baby will scam me like proper like you know when you get in contact with the baby and then like that first bag that just you blow on the baby and then I said never again and then yeah I was like so you were angry and you told her to take the money to give you booty yeah 27:50 Did she? 27:51 Did she scare me? 27:52 She fired. No, she didn't fire. She actually fell in love with me at some point. At some point, like, she fell in love with me, but then I was just bored by the concept that, like, I had to, like, you know. 28:03 Work so hard. 28:04 Yeah, work so hard. Like, am I not, like, handsome? 28:07 Yo, actually, you know, I was thinking about this the other day, man. 28:10 Like, you know, like, why did I have to do that, you know? But it's like, you could have just, like, asked me nicely and then, like, you know. 28:16 but now like but I was thinking about this the other day man like do women really understand what they are creating by making a man chase so hard yo this is a nice topic have we really unpacked it this is a nice topic because the other day I was really like phew I was really thinking about it. Because me, I tell niggas all the time, but bro, I'm not romantic. Romance is making money. For me, making money is romance. 28:41 Oh wait, you're not romantic? 28:43 No. 28:43 But you're a lover boy. 28:44 I'm a lover boy. I am 100%. I got so much love to give. But some people think love comes with romance automatically. 28:51 It's not synonymous. 28:52 For me, romance is like spending time together. Yo, I've got to go hustle. Come with me. 28:58 The more you can support what I'm on the journey for, the more romantic that is for me. 29:03 Scratch my back. That's romantic. 29:04 Yeah, 100%. But now what I was thinking about is like, yo, some women are like, yo, you don't chase me anymore. You know, we still have to date each other. We still have to. And I'm like, you have a point, but... 29:20 Did you think this was going to last forever? Like, this man just chased you the whole time. Like, nah, dog. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You were also doing things that made me chase you. 29:32 You're not doing those things anymore. Ooh, okay. 29:36 You know? 29:36 Okay, okay, I get you. 29:37 Right? Now you want me to initiate sex. 29:40 You want me to initiate sex? 29:43 What do you mean nigga And you want me to chase you Nah nah nah You know what I mean There needs to be a fine line It's like yo How about you Initiate sex As my woman Yeah I'll do the dates But I don't I don't ever wanna Be wanting for sex You must just When I walk in the door I get you It's party time Sex is not my job anymore It's yours I'll chase you But that's something Sex is your job It's something you communicate From the jump Now I'm communicating Now you're doing that Because like And I was thinking about it The other day I'm like dog Now this is unfair Why do you think Like a nigga's gonna chase you 30:16 your whole the whole time that we're together that's what the the thing the society has designed like niggas like we always like the guys are always chasing seriously like i think it's designed like that i ain't gonna i'm a simp bro i'm a romantic dude i love i love you strikes me as a simp but i love that he owns it that's good i'll leave notes for you i will literally i will do some yeah man that's just me 30:43 But I ain't gonna lie. I get the worst huns. I have terrible taste. Nigga, you will get the worst huns, dude. Where's your girlfriend, actually? Huh? 30:50 Where's your girlfriend? Bro, this nigga was in love two weeks ago, wasn't he? So, bro, where's your girlfriend? Hey, man. Two weeks ago, you sat here and you said, yeah, nah, I think I found it. I think I found it. 31:03 I thought I heard you were with like a girl from this podcast that really got guap. You got better taste than me, my nigga. Who was this? 31:09 Yanda. Oh, were you and Yanda in a serious relationship or was it just like one of those young characters? 31:15 What's Lucas Raps is that he was using her for the bag? Lucas said that you were using Yanda for the bag. 31:20 Lucas, you're... 31:23 My friend. 31:24 I love my friend. If you know me, guys, I'm a person who's just genuinely like, you know, just talk about you know me. Contribency is not something that I'm really into, you know, like, you talk about me, like, I disappear on the surface of the earth. And you'll see me whenever you see me, you know, like, I don't really give a fuck about like... But was that relationship real? No, it was... Yeah, we were real. Like, me and Yanda were loved... Like, we loved each other, I guess. 31:50 Oh, no, but didn't Yanda say that Vinny hit her up and said, me and you, we make sense? Our brand makes sense or something like that, man? She said, yo, we make... She said that you said something like... 32:02 Our brands make sense. It's not like that, you know. But I wouldn't blame you. Let me put the 411. Let me put the 411. You see now, niggas want to... Let me actually lay it out. Baby girl was in high school. And then I just finished high school at that time. You get me? So, I don't know what was happening. And then at that time, I don't know what was happening at a school. So me, I'm a person who has... 32:28 big confidence bro like I actually don't give a fuck I work with my shit like on you know I'm that nigga you know I know like because I knew it because I was now chilling with Ricky chilling with your guys at that age you get what I mean so I was already certified before these niggas wanted to certified I certified myself I gave myself time before anybody before anybody could say shit about it you get what I mean so of course now I had to like for my brand I have to look for a girlfriend that's suitable for the brand so For my brand. For my brand. 32:59 For my brand. 33:03 I take the design, I'm like, yo, this, you know. Now I'm staying at Waterfall. I need something that suits Waterfall, bro. You feel me? I kept my girl. Actually, I liked her, you know, and then we started linking up. Went on a date. You know, we used to go. I used to go to Manly in Maine all the time, you know. Everything was nice, man. We had our nice, cute relationship. She was balling on you. Yeah. 33:26 And then we all blew up. You know, we used to go on dates. 33:29 It's not like, you know, it's always nice when a female says that they were balling. Kante, who was paying for the lunches and stuff? And, you know. Like all the other shit, they cut it out, you know. It's just that at that time she was gifting me shit, you know. And like, I was busy, bro. I was traveling like day in, day out, bro. I'm going, today I'm in Kenya, tomorrow I'm wherever. But does it count if the gifts are from basically her parents? 33:53 Does it count? 33:54 I mean, at that time, no, no, no, no, no. No, let's not discredit her. 33:58 Let's not discredit her. I'm not discrediting her. 34:01 I'm just asking. He's asking. I get it. She has it. You don't have to put a lot of effort. She didn't have to put much effort into that. It was cute. You had to put effort into it because you made something of yourself from zero to zero. 34:14 It was cute, you know? It was nice. No, of course it's cute. And then, I don't know, there were some girls who were pulling her at school or whatever. Then I told her, bro, like, just drive the Porsche side to school and show them what they fucking are. And she did that. And then, you know, they felt it. And then it's a stance that niggas would do, you know. And she would, she mustn't even lie. She used to have some low self-esteem at some point. Not now when she's confident. You get what I mean? 34:39 Or you put her on to that. 34:40 And then I was like, yo, my man, you just have to put this shit on, bro. Like, you gotta cut this shit. Like, now you're my honey. Like, you're the best. 34:49 I'm that, bro. Like, when we get inside, like, let's see what we can do, my love. What can we do? 34:58 Yo, what? Yo, listen, with that being said, we have to, we have to, we have to, okay, say what you want to say. 35:05 You know what's funny, you know what's funny for me about that? It's like when niggas go to the club, when we enter the club, it's, Jens, what can we do? So to me, it sounded like, yo, hey, baby, what can we, what can we make shake here? 35:17 You know what I mean? Because now, because she was just, you know, we had a great relationship like I won't lie I just cheated and then she also like also had her own things that she was doing on the side but I'll never talk on that because it's just so you're saying she wasn't innocent she's not innocent she must never never get away with it I've always been quiet after that 35:41 She must know. 35:42 She must know. She must not be innocent. But she must know. We're still, you know. We're still mutual, you know. We saw each other balcony mix. She greeted me. 35:50 So you guys have a clean relationship right now. No hate, no... Nah, me and Nunu Fee, we're fine. 35:55 You say what? Nunu Fee! 35:58 With that being said, we'd like to welcome you to all this. We haven't done a fucking intro, man. And as I usually do, welcome to the show where the hosts are the goats, where words get spoke, foot meets throat, and chokers choke, because this... 36:15 It's all the smoke, baby. And my co-host, you do your thing. 36:26 Yeah, you understand. The most official stuff will keep it simple like that. And today we have a very good friend of mine. He's been in hiding for a little bit. 36:33 I didn't know he was going to arrive. 36:34 We actually had some backups. You know what I mean? I tried calling you the whole of yesterday. No answer. Today, finally, a couple of hours before. 36:42 For the people that don't know you, please introduce yourself, my friend. Hi, I go by the name of Uncle Vinny Don VVS. You know, the best of the best. If you don't know, now you know. Now you know it. 36:52 Yo, listen, Vinny, man, there's been a lot going on, man. There's been a lot going on. And I feel like we should just jump straight into it. I mean, damn, we've been chatting for a little bit before we get back to the Smokey Bowl. 37:03 where you locked up? 37:04 Yes, I was. On the 1st of July, I was taken in for a case of domestic violence. And how many days did you spend inside? I spent three days. 37:18 For people that don't understand what that looks like, please describe it. From the moment, from before, did they come and bamba you or did you turn yourself in? 37:28 No, they came to my house. They came to your house. Okay, so describe from that moment. In that moment, yeah, yeah. Came to my house with the former partner that I had at the time, of course. Can you say her name? The lady that laid the charge. Yeah, the lady that laid the charge. 37:41 Are you allowed to say her name or no? 37:42 No, I don't want to engage her. But we know, right? Because we played videos the other day. 37:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So... 37:50 played the charge and then I was put in and I was detained in Hilbro police station and yeah then I was inside I was locked up for three days please describe the the conditions 38:04 Because I've been there. Please. Is this your first time? 38:08 Yeah. This is your first time? 38:09 First time, yeah. 38:09 First time every time I've been in the rule of law or anything or any sort of. Yeah. I've never done anything, like drunk, like nothing. Nothing. 38:22 So they sign you up, they do what they do, you end cuffs, blah, blah, blah. 38:25 Do you guys get mug shots? 38:26 No. 38:26 I want to see them on TV. No, no mug shots. 38:28 Did they do mug shots for you? I think they do. Did they do mug shots for you? 38:32 I don't think they did. Yeah, they did. I think they process you in their ways. 38:36 South African system, they have. Their fingerprints. 38:40 Yes, and then, you know. 38:41 No ID number. 38:42 Took my shoelaces. 38:43 Oh, because they're scared you're going to do something. They did. One of the reasons. 38:47 Just took everything, you know. so yeah I went in man it was not jail is not a resort man no of course it's not I've been ever detaining say like it's not it's not cute man so for were you eating the oats that they brought in the morning so what were you doing for food bro I wasn't doing anything. I was fasting, bro. I was praying. 39:09 Oh, snap. I'm praying. I was praying. 39:12 You got super close to God during that time, huh? 39:14 I was inside with God. He was inside with God, my boy. 39:20 I was on my knees, bro. Is it true? Pleading. Is it true, that thing? I mean, I know there's a difference between jail, prison, holding cells. I don't understand it fully yet. I just had my own run with the law I told you about. We can speak about it a little later. Yeah. I just want to know, is it true? Like, when you get there, the first thing you think, like, these niggas going to do, you know? 39:38 No, man. It's not the one you're thinking about. You still have that worry. 39:42 But with the holding cells, at least the cops are not far from the thing. 39:50 You know, your holding cells. If you scream, they're going to hear it. Okay, okay. That close, you know what I mean? But with prison, when those lights go off... 39:58 And there's like 40 of you in a cell. 40:00 It's different. So nothing like that happened to you. You didn't become nobody's girlfriend. 40:05 Funny enough, there were some hood niggas that I knew from that were inside there. Because, of course, like, Bru is famous. So a guy will always notice you. He's like, you, don't I know you from something? 40:17 or then we're just chilling man and it was just like very like not really chilling but like it was really like yeah cause you ain't chilling it's crazy yeah you ain't chilling it's like the stories that you're hearing from like people that are inside there like you start like looking at life at a different lens like you start like just like yo the fuck is going on actually in life you know like I had this other nigga was like stabbed like six times for sure like And that guy was, he had a worse story, like, than whatever I was going through, you know what I mean? 40:51 And I just looked at him, and he was just there saying, yo, I'm gonna get out of this shit. I was just looking at him, I'm like, okay, my nigga, whatever you trusting, I'ma, like, I'ma pray, like. 41:05 You know, that nigga was there, like, I was like, okay. No, no, it's just like niggas coming in, of course, during the course of the days and whatever. Yeah, niggas, you see niggas every day coming in, yeah. Some other nigga who hijacked cars came in, shout out to that nigga. That nigga was a real nigga. 41:20 He came inside, like, he told us, like, what he did and, like... He was proud of himself. 41:26 Yeah, he was passionate about his shit. Yeah. 41:30 You know, it's crazy when you're in prison. Not really passionate, but like, he went in, but like, you could see like, okay, like, he's in, but like, he's believing. He's like, nah, by Monday, I'll be out. 41:42 He's done this before. 41:43 It's like, yeah, like, for him, it was normal. 41:46 No, he's right. By Monday, he'll be out, you know? So you spent three days there. 41:50 And, I mean, when you got here, I mean, you were chopping it up, you know? And you told me a funny story about how, first of all, the case was dropped. 41:59 Right? And I said, how did that happen? Please tell me the story about how you got trapped. 42:05 I really can't really disclose. 42:07 Damn. Damn. 42:09 Before you get into that, because I just want a little bit of context of... 42:15 What happened? Why did he end up being arrested? 42:19 Before we can get into the point of... What really happened, guys, the gist is that first and foremost, I know Tseho said that I mustn't do this, but first and foremost, I just feel like it's a good thing to just say I would like to apologize to all the women. Like, really? 42:34 That's what I shouldn't do. 42:36 Everyone. You want to apologize to all the women? Yeah. Uncle Vinny apologizing to all the women. 42:40 No, because... Why? 42:42 No, no, no, no. Because I just feel like generally because of the imagery that was being painted and painted out of me. You know, especially because of my female supporters and also like the awkward position that I put in and everyone that was in. But the relationship that I was in with this... 42:59 person you know I mean when you put it like that I love that it makes sense to me right you're not apologizing for any wrongdoing per se you're apologizing that you're even in this position to begin with okay I'm apologizing because I get that I get that 43:16 it's everybody is now dragged into this and unfortunately i couldn't just have set and just watch everybody just like have their way or their say or i'm not even coming here and asking for sympathy or some like people to be sympathetic to me like i'm on a campaign or even a smear campaign you know it's just in a very fucked up toxic relationship 43:39 So then walk us down that journey. How do we get here, right? Because there's many stories like you were living with her. You didn't have your own place to stay with. She was blah, blah, blah. So walk us down. How do we even get here? 43:51 I mean, genuinely, I can say my situation with... Okay, my situation with me and her, like, I don't want to be... 44:03 My situation with her, you know when you are in love with someone, like you guys are in love genuinely, like everything is happening and happening. And I won't lie and say, I don't want to be the person to pinpoint and say, you were wrong, I was wrong or whatever. There's certain things that we press from each other. Again, in certain parts and certain limits. that we pressed, you know. And I think me, the, the mistake that I made is not understanding the, the mind state of the person. 44:40 That's the mistake I made. 44:41 Yeah. 44:43 And also, as the person I am, and also the things that I bring into that relationship, because, of course, I'm Uncle Vinny, so this shit comes with, like, with its own shit, you get what I mean? I'm Uncle Vinny. It comes with its own shit. Nah, real shit. You get me? I get you. I get you. 45:01 So I won't lie and say, like, there was no text from, like, girls and, like, and whatever, or whatever the case, maybe the infidelity or whatever, but I've never, like, touched or even slept with those girls, you know? But in my relationship, it's just that there was so much challenges, you know? 45:17 So I want to be very systematic with this, right? Yeah, yeah. Where do you meet this girl? Let's start. Where do you meet this girl? 45:23 I get you, I get you. 45:25 Yeah, we're not trying to skip over. Let's be blunt, yeah. How do you even link with this girl? Like... 45:30 What circles do you even find her at? 45:33 We link up like... Club shit. Not really club shit. 45:38 It's just like social media. So same shit you did with Yadda. 45:43 We look good together. We look good together. 45:47 Okay, Shab, I can't even fault you for that, right? That's what Instagram is mean to, right? Let it work its magic, right? So, Shab, you guys link up. How long after you guys start dating do you move in with her? 46:00 So I go to So basically This is November December I'm only moving into When I come back from Ghana So Jenna I stayed at my place And then I started having issues With the niggas that I have You get what I mean? But at this point You've been dating her for how long? By January You're dating how long? 46:17 No we started dating November Okay Alright So it's like Oh so it's a festive relationship Are you brave? 46:23 Fuck off Let's not even go for that What? That's not even go feather. 46:29 That's not even go feather. That's not even go feather. That's hilarious. 46:34 No, that's danger. 46:35 Like, that's danger. 46:38 Um, yeah. Because now you're getting too much. Vinny, Vinny, I'm going to be blunt, bro. I'm going to be blunt. I'm going to ask. 46:46 with the, it's going to be tricky for me. 46:49 Okay, let him do it. I want to answer everything and everything I said to God. But you know the rule. 46:56 And the thing is, we're not going to ask you any wild shit, right? 46:59 Because I was about to. 47:02 I really don't want anyone to really go attack anyone. Please. I don't want any... You don't want to know. I don't want to know. For this, I'm really doing it. I'm doing it for my mom. You care about her. Because really, this whole thing really hurts a lot of people, especially in my family. Yeah, yeah. I can imagine. It's really not about even... about me saving my career or anything. 47:26 I want you to just have one question for you, bro. So I can't take him down that path that you're thinking. Can you carry on a little bit? Or can I just ask you this blunt question? You don't have to answer, but I'm just curious, bro. Okay, you carry on then. 47:41 I can't. Okay, you carry on. I'm going to ask mine after. But please remember your question. Because I know it's important. Because I know it's important. 47:48 Because I know it's important. Cool. 47:50 But I don't want them to lose their track of, you know, I don't want them to feel like, oh, we're almost there. And then they're like, fuck. 47:55 Then I just go, yeah, okay, let's go. 47:56 So you're saying it was a festive relationship. You come back. It's not a festive. 48:01 You said you started dating November. 48:04 For me, I mean, in our calendar, our festive starts from like September, October. November, we ain't festive. Right? Yeah. People break up. Dangerous waters to be dating. Right? Let alone starting a relationship. That's the bed that it's born on. 48:19 Okay, let's go. 48:20 You go to Ghana for a month or two. Yeah, I go for like a whole full month. Yeah, a month, right? You come back in January, right? In January, you have issues with the people that you're staying with. 48:30 Yeah. You're like, you know, baby, listen, hold me down while I figure my shit out, right? Yeah, and then at that time, I lost my phone, and it wasn't like, this was consensual, you know? 48:41 Of course, of course. 48:42 It wasn't like I forced anyone down, shoved it down the throat, and it was a thing of like, yo, baby, you can, for now, you can, you know, be with me, you know? And that's the, yeah, jig, man. 48:58 That's the real jig. 49:00 I got one question and that's what I got. 49:02 Okay, so that happens, man. You come back in January and you're like, baby, I need your help, right? Yeah. I need you to hold me down while I do my things. These niggas are on my back stressing me, whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you move in February or January? 49:18 I think late, no, not late Feb, like maybe for sure beginning of Feb. Beginning of Feb, right? 49:23 And then you stay with her for how long before you move on? 49:26 Then most probably like Now you're making me say the footage that I don't know how to say shit. Maybe like I say, yeah, April, yeah, it's May. April, May, I started like going out. Okay, cool. 49:42 That's the part that I, that's how I say I don't really put- Now, when, and I ask you this question outside, when did you start saying, you know what, this is dangerous for me and I need to actually start making my way out? 49:55 That's a good question. And there's two ways in which you can answer that. Give us a timeline. 50:01 Which is what? 50:03 Which is April. That's when the whole, I think, everything started becoming very intense. 50:11 Like, the relationship started, the tone of the relationship started changing. It started becoming something that is... Not good for you. Not good for the both of us. Okay. Now can I ask my question? 50:26 Now please go ahead. 50:27 Oh, you know I was going to ask. No, no, no. I just knew it was a good time. 50:29 Yeah, somewhere there, yeah. Bro, can you... Iceman. 50:33 Can you on record... 50:39 Can you on record tell us if you have been assaulted by a woman or have you ever put your hands on a woman? Ever. Can you just lay that to rest off the record right now? I mean, on the record right now. 50:56 I've been assaulted by a woman. 50:59 In self-defense, yes, I have assaulted a woman. 51:01 Damn. 51:02 And this is the woman that was in question currently? No. 51:05 It's not the woman in question. 51:08 It is. Damn. 51:09 Genuinely. Right? Yeah. Okay, cool. And again, Vinny, like, you know, and I'm going to give you props. I'm going to give you your flowers right now because not a lot of people are willing to do this and I'm sure that if you spoke to a lot of people, a lot of people would tell you not to do it. Right? But at the end of the day, I feel like MT came here He said his piece And I feel like It was therapy Right I feel like it was therapy To a point where it's like Okay at least people At least understand What's going on Not even If you don't understand The whole picture But you get some glimpse Into the world That I've had to live in Right Cause here you get this person Who's saying I've done this And I've done this And we're not Saying that Those things didn't happen We're not saying That she's a liar Me personally Yeah But I think it's very important, especially for a young man, to show other people. 52:01 And dog, you're outside actually telling me that you have other niggas of yours that are now being clapped by their girls. What? And then you told me, like, yo, when you look at my generation, you don't see a lot of that. And I'm like, yeah. 52:15 I don't have niggas that have called me and said, yo, yo, yo, my woman is putting the beats on me. But that doesn't mean it's not happening. Maybe they're not told you. 52:23 It doesn't mean it's not happening. But when Vinny said what he said, I'm like, yeah. Because I'm not going to say you guys are soft. 52:32 But you're kind of saying that. But I'm kind of saying that you guys are soft. 52:38 And I don't know what it is. I don't know why you guys are so... You guys have such a long tether when it comes to bullshit with women. 52:49 Unpack that. What does that mean? 52:51 It means I have never once, never once tolerated a woman even swinging her hand in my direction. Tolerated. 53:00 As in you leave immediately. 53:02 Nigga, and I'll tell you this before. While we're laughing and ha-ha, hey, honeymoon is... I'll tell you right then and there. 53:09 Like, you know, while we're laughing, you know, I don't play the bullshit. 53:14 I don't come from that kind of family. I love myself enough to tell you to get the fuck out. Like, if you even throw a lighter and miss me, I'll be like, girl, that's the last time you're ever going to even do that. But I feel like... 53:29 In your generation, I feel like you guys are so desensitized to bullshit. Maybe it's that. 53:37 Hey, man. 53:38 I really don't know what to say about it, bro. Like... Yeah. You just... What allowed you to stay for so long? Same thing we asked MT. What then allowed you to stay for so long? I mean... Well, like, it's all in the name of... Love. Love. Also, you love that, girls. Yeah. 53:59 Damn. 54:00 I guess it's the name of love. Yeah. 54:03 Bro, can I just ask? And I say this far, I'm just piggybacking. 54:07 So, so, but like, it's just, it's how it is, man. No, but it's real. Yeah, it's real. That's the gist of it because you just, you don't really know, bro. 54:16 So... But you did say something important. You said you didn't know the full, the full... 54:22 picture of her character you said something like that earlier you like this is before you knew who you were dealing with who did you end up dealing with at the end that last day who did you end up dealing with oh man like the character that you that like um cause Vinny we've seen the videos bro 54:43 Guys, that's for you guys to do, you know? That's for your guys to judge. That was WWE Smackdown. Tell us about your experience. 54:51 She was a heavyweight, man. She's a heavyweight. Come on. 54:55 I'm not God, bro. You know what I mean? That's what I mean. I'm not God. I let God decide that me, I've forgiven. I'm past that. 55:06 I... 55:07 I really don't have the thing, the energy to even dwell on it. I don't have it. 55:13 It hurt me so much. I don't have the energy to dwell. Even if counting the hurts about it, to dwell on it is like... 55:23 Where's my energy? I just want to forgive myself, you know, move on, try to do whatever I can do for my loneliness that I can do. 55:34 A lot of that I still have. 55:35 Okay, but you have a responsibility here to do something for the young men like you, right? Don't forget about that responsibility, right? And it's not about what you want to say. No, I don't need you to... I don't need you to... Have a message for the young men. What we're doing here is the message, right? What we're doing here is the message, right? Sure. And, again, people might look at you and be like, yo, that's Uncle Vinny. He would never go through some shit like that. What? Here you are, Uncle Vinny, saying, yo, I've been through some crazy shit at the hands of my relationship. 56:07 I'm not going to say a woman. At the hands of my relationship. Like, I went through a crazy-ass relationship. Like, I... 56:14 Just don't stay, bro. When you feel like shit is just fucking out. 56:20 When did you feel like the violence was too much? I don't know, man. When did you feel like the violence was too much? Listen, I'm going to at least try to ask as many questions as the people have, dog. Because Vinny, you're not the biggest guy, dog. And the way I know you, you're not a fighter. 56:40 Yeah, I'm not. 56:41 The way I know you, you're not a fighter. But the way we know this woman... 56:46 Via the video. She can handle herself. Clearly, dog. You know? So, I want to understand, like, there was clearly some level of violence, right? And like you said, you played your own part in it, which was, as you say, defending yourself. 57:04 When was it at the peak of having to defend yourself? What did that kind of violence look like? 57:11 When is it ever peak? 57:12 I get you. 57:15 But you stayed. So there was a peak until you left. When you left was the peak. 57:20 But when does it ever peak? That's the question also. As you need to ask yourself. When does it ever peak? 57:27 You know? 57:30 I know my answer to that. My answer is it's always peak. Like I said, if you even swing your hand in my back. 57:35 You know. 57:38 It's just that I fucked up by staying. 57:41 I thought I did. Yeah, Vinny doesn't want to give us too much. 57:43 Why did you stay? 57:45 So, going back to why he said, he said, why did you stay, right? So, and you said love. But like, were you in a dire situation? Because as far as we know, you were staying with this person. Were you relying on her so much that you're like, I can't? 57:56 Was I in a dire situation? In my mind, maybe I thought I was in a dire situation. Looking back to it now, because in the situation that I'm in, I wasn't in a dire situation. Ah, okay. If you know what I mean. Perspective, yeah. Um... 58:11 Also, it's like... 58:14 It's all good, you know, until things turn south or when the other person is hurt, you know. And then once the other person is hurt and their feelings are not being hurt, I guess it leads them to... We as people, we're not both the same. That's all I can say. Some people get frustrated in different ways. You know, that's how I take it. you know, the way I look at it. 58:46 But there's a level, man. 58:48 You know, there's an acceptable level. Yeah, it's unacceptable, you know. That's why I'm just saying, like, to the young niggas, like, to the young niggas, like, just, bro, like, I'm saying it, like, not just, like, Just leave, bro. Because the police are not going to be on your side. 59:11 As a man, pretty much no one's going to be on your side. Yeah, no one is going to be on your side. 59:17 I'm glad that I didn't even have a phone to even see what's on my fucking side. This is my first social interaction since all this bullshit happened. Not really bullshit, sorry to say. 59:28 But for the record, just so everyone knows, she's the one that dropped the case. The case, yeah. 59:33 She's the one that dropped the case, right? Yeah. It's not like you paid to have this thing disappear. She's the one that dropped the case. We had a mutual agreement, yeah. 59:40 You guys spoke? You guys spoke about it. 59:44 Yeah, he had to do some shit. 59:45 We have people who are in love, so we have decent ways to speak to each other. 59:51 Brother, look, a situation like this, the way I understand it, when you go through something like this, and I commend you again for coming to this platform and talking to your chrutmans, because, you know, niggas that you've been knowing for a while and putting it out there. But I'm sure discussions also happened in the back end before you came onto the show. 60:08 How's your heart? How's your mind? How are you really? How's your health, bro? We don't want to hear a story about you. 60:15 Bro, like, I don't lie. 60:17 Like, what else can you feel, bro? 60:20 You know? I don't know. You tell me. Every day is just like some new shit. Then you hear tomorrow you have a sex tape. Then you hear that you can't pay bail. 60:31 And then, like, it's all, like, all this character. How are you? You're not telling me. You're telling me what's happening on the outside. What's the inside world looking like? Of course. 60:40 How will I be? How are you? Tell us. 60:43 I'm okay, man. I'll be okay. You'll be okay. That's it. That's it. 60:50 You know, it's crazy that you're asking that. And, you know, B, you can talk about your own situation when you want to talk about it. You just let me know. 60:59 But I was watching The Boys yesterday. What's that? Open Chats. 61:05 That's a beautiful song. 61:08 And Lifa broke down crying. Do we have a video of that, Mohal? Yeah, can we play that for context? Yeah. 61:17 But I think it's so funny Like His tears are not funny But I feel like At the end of it Like the reason why he's crying Is funny But it goes ties into Like how are you Like you know as niggas Like how are we You know Yeah Damn Homeboy was crying on the show Whatever Whatever Whatever just shows him crying If it hurts it hurts There we go Why are we gonna act like Things don't hurt us We're human 61:47 And Lefa, we've continued to say you are the light of the show. The complete light. 61:54 I can say that you are the first one to make me feel comfortable to even be seen on camera. 62:00 So there is no way that I'm going to make you believe that you are this guy that just... 62:09 You're a very sweet man. 62:11 Very sweet, very loving, very caring. 62:14 Something that is very rare in this world that I haven't seen. And I'm very grateful that you're being vulnerable with us. I'm very grateful. 62:22 Why was he crying? 62:23 So, first of all, I want to say shout out to Liffa because not a lot of men are willing to do that on camera. I don't know you, never met you, but I respect real nigga shit and I feel like that is real nigga shit, being vulnerable enough to do that on camera. Same thing I was telling you. I nearly didn't do the show today, man. You nearly didn't do the show when I said... Like I said, bro, listen, this has to be a safe space for you at some point in time. You know what I mean? And what people think needs to be, like, the second, the last, actually, the last thing you actually care about at some point in time. 62:55 But now, getting to the funny part. 62:58 Like, shout out, Livah, for showing men that you can cry. But this nigga cried because he cheated on his girl. 63:04 Oh, no. 63:06 So I was with this nigga until, like... 63:12 So you think he gets cracked by something deep because he cheated on this girl? 63:16 So he's been saying, yeah, I'm a, what did he say? He says, I'm a horrible guy. 63:21 Like, I'm an ancient guy. 63:23 That's why she's saying, no, you're not. But he's saying he's ancient because of how he's cheated. He's warming up to this point. You know what I mean? So shout out to you for being able to do that. But also, you know, but I mean, damn, you know, so when you said that, It made me think, like, yeah, for real, you know? 63:44 I don't feel like as men, we ask each other that question enough. Like, how are you doing, really? 63:49 I think more than anything, we don't build a culture around being a man and manhood. There's no time for emotions. Everybody's, you gotta be the warrior. You gotta be the warrior. And there's no space for the farmers. There's no space for the people who can cultivate themselves, their hearts and their feelings and their emotions and... process that that's why I was asking that question you know it's a question that we rarely get asked how is your heart how's your mind how are you really and even then we get we give some bullshit answer I'm fine I was just about to say I gotta answer for all that shit we always give a bullshit answer because we're so used to the culture of whenever someone says how are you say I'm fine you're gonna deal with it on your own yes and before the show happened everybody here saw that I wasn't okay man I was not okay at all I nearly didn't do the show yeah I was trying to psych myself to do the show. 64:38 But I was very emotional a little early. I couldn't even talk. My voice was just all over the face. And in my mind, I'm like, shit, these niggas probably think I'm acting because I've been acting. 64:49 I'm like, I could see. I could see. 64:51 Remember when we got out the car? 64:52 I was like, dog, are you okay, dog? You know, I could tell immediately. 64:55 Yeah, nah, I was not okay, bro. So what had happened was I fucked up. I'm not going to lie. I fucked up. 65:02 Nah, nah, don't start like that. No, don't start. I think everyone has a role to play. I'm not going to say you fucked up, though. Don't say that. 65:10 Don't say that. Don't say that. I guess. Yeah, don't say that. 65:14 Yeah, so... Shit, boy. Yeah, nah, nah, nah. At your own pace, bro. At your own pace. It's a safe space. 65:22 So... I was... 65:26 Driving to work, right? Driving, pulling up here. 65:29 But I'm speeding. 65:31 Trying to get here at half two. We said we're going through half two. 65:36 So I see this car driving really slow. And I'm like, all right, cool. Let me just overtake this car. 65:42 There's no cars coming. So I'm going to overtake the car. Overtake the car? 65:46 over speed hump guy accelerates like crazy acceleration we're about to go around the corner I don't know if there's a car coming at some point so I'm accelerating like crazy my heart is beating I'm like damn why is this nigga doing this cause I'm just trying to get you know I'm trying to shit I'm trying to just go to work I finally go and people are flipping me on the sides bro this guy pulls over my side of the road Afrikaans guy rolls the window down he's yelling at me swearing racial slurs like what the okay like i'm sorry okay i'm sorry for you know he pulls out a gun bro yeah this is why the car's in motion yeah damn and there's like a hun in the in the car so i'm like this is it you know my in my head life was flashing 66:44 A little too quick that time, huh? Yeah, in my head, it's like, that's it. 66:51 In my head, I'm just going to work and nigga pull out a gun, so I accelerate. 66:55 I'm accelerating and he's following me now. Really, really going after me, chasing me, flashing his lights and shit. And I'm close to work. So I'm like, fuck, what the fuck am I going to do? What am I going to do? 67:08 I'm thinking these niggas either going to hijack me or it's going to be a shootout. I don't know what the fuck's going to happen. I'm thinking the worst type situation. 67:17 I see a police, the security guys, the people that are with the cars. So I stopped there thinking at least as witnesses, whatever happens, the niggas are going to try and stop it at least. Yeah. 67:29 this guy pulls up and now I see like he's wearing some like he's wearing like a something like a uniform so I'm like is that a police uniform I'm thinking in my head like what the fuck is going on is that a police uniform is he really a cop because the cop is not a cop cop it's just a normal cop yeah yeah So I'm like, you pulled a gun out on me, dog. Like, you literally pointed the gun at me, my dude. And he's like, but you pointed the gun first. I'm like, what gun, bro? I don't have a gun. It's like, you overtook me. And I'm like, okay, I'm sorry for overtaking you, but, like, does that warrant you pointing a gun my way? 68:04 Like, now you need to pop me because I overtook you? I know, you know, what happened? They come out and they start saying I'm Nigerian and shit, bro. They start saying, fucking Nigerians always do. I'm like, bro, I'm South African. That thing that we always joke about and shit. 68:20 He's like, put out your driver's license. I'm not fully trusting that these people are cops and shit, although they're dressed up. But I'm holding my shit, like, far from them. I'm like, yeah, look at it. Like, give it to me. I'm like, nah. Like, I don't know who you guys are and what you guys are going to do. And the people that are seeing, the security guards are chilling there. I'm like, yo, what's that? And you're like... But they're just chilling in the whole time. These niggas swearing, swearing shit. And then at the end of it, they're like, be fucking careful who you mess with or whatever. And then they woke up, bro, I'm shaking the whole time, bro. I'm like, I can't even think straight. I'm like, do I go to work? 68:51 Am I, am I, you know? So I was, yeah, I was, I was not in the best space when I came in. I tried to compose myself, tried to breathe. I could see. 69:00 I could see immunity, man. I could see. And I want to say shout out for actually sharing that story. You know, I wasn't sure if you were going to be Up to it. 69:08 The only reason I wouldn't share this story is if the space didn't feel safe. And only when you came up to me and spoke to me at the car that I feel like, damn, this nigga isn't my up. He's on my team. We're on the same team. That's my boy. You feel like I'm your up, nigga. 69:24 You feel like I'm your up, bro? I'm sorry, bro. 69:27 You feel like I'm your up? 69:29 I'm not your up, bro. You know, I think as niggas, you know, we like to crack on each other, man. It's that thing. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, like I told you outside, it's like, dog, We are getting to know each other. There's no way I want you to think or there's no way I want to think like I know you as BU. I've only known you a couple of months. You know what I mean? I'm nowhere near scratching the surface of who you are. And you're nowhere near the surface of scratching who I am. 69:59 Same with Muhao. Same with all the gents in here. Like, we can pretend like, no. We came here to work. You know what I mean? We've never seen each other at our most vulnerable. And I feel like this was a really vulnerable moment for you. And I hope that you can see that it is safe enough space for you to come and express yourself. And, you know, it's not going to be a moment where niggas are trolling you and, you know, all that shit, bro. Again, you know, shout out to you. And these are your flowers for showing men that yo we can't be vulnerable and we can't talk about the shit that actually like hurt us you know and like you really weren't trying to talk like you were really not trying to talk this nigga comes to me he's like yo what happened bro was it road rage 70:39 I'm like, I can't even talk. He's like, did they pull out a gun? 70:42 I'm like, how the fuck? I started pulling the story and I'm like, cops? 70:46 And he's like, how the fuck? 70:48 And I'm like, bro, listen, I'm used to this stuff. You know. That's what I'm saying. I don't think, guys, we have that culture amongst each other. Because if you're chilling with the bruise all the time, your drink, you're always clowning each other. You don't know if that culture of... Of I can actually say this And niggas won't clown me Or it won't become a moment In the net or whatever You don't know Until you feel like Okay shit I've seen that I've felt that This nigga got my That's why I did this show Because if you didn't pull up I probably wouldn't have been able To talk about it Yeah I think you were done You were done I would have gone home I would have sat there I would have been miserable bro Yeah you were done When I pulled up you were done It got so much better When you spoke to me I ain't gonna lie When you spoke to me man to man I was like Yo, what? 71:26 I feel better What? You know what I mean? And you told You spoke I didn't speak You told me like This was happening And I just kind of like Confirmed it So yeah Thanks for Nah, shout out I think you know The thing is It's like Like you said You never know until you know Right? 71:41 You never know Who the right nigga to talk to is Until you talk to the right nigga Or who the wrong nigga is Until you talk to the wrong nigga Right? And you know That's what It goes back to the saying of You know Find your people Find your community. And it doesn't, it's not a small thing, man. It takes a really long time. It could take years of losing people, meeting new people, having to be vulnerable with those people. Like, I'm the most untrusting nigga. You know what I mean? Like, the most. But there's a level of God that I see in everyone at the same time. 72:14 You know? I see God in Vinny. I see God in you. I see God in all the gents here. That's why I can be humble and respectful. 72:21 of whatever situation you're going through. You get what I'm saying? But, I mean, yeah, find your people. I feel like, you know, you found your... This is a man cave, nigga. You found your cave. You know what I mean? It's nice and warm and crispy. 72:38 I'll tell you something. It's starting to feel like it. After today, maybe that was a miracle waiting to happen. I don't know, man. Maybe that was something that needed to happen in order for this moment to happen. I don't know. Shout out. Thank you very much. 72:50 Shout out, man. 72:51 I appreciate you. I appreciate you. Shout out. 72:55 Yeah, so as men, man, let's appreciate each other. Let's talk more. I feel like Vinny, yo, I feel like people are going to be shocked to see that you're even here. 73:03 Yeah, true. 73:05 When they see the moments where you guys are clipping, they're going to be like... 73:11 Because I won't lie, when I watched the Stilo episode back, especially the way they clipped it. I haven't watched it. I was like, Vinny's going to feel some type of way about this. But when I watched it, I was like, no, if Vinny watches this whole thing, he'll understand. 73:26 You know, that's the thing. Me, I'm not a believer on clipper because on clips. Clipping, yeah, the clipping thing. Yes. 73:33 At least you have some sense. 73:34 Like I have, I watched Madanga Commission like the whole day. Why? Why do you watch that shit? I have like... serious concentration span. You don't watch this shit? No, I don't. No, bro, I watch this shit. The country's really going down, bro. That's like one of the hardest commissions that is happening now. It's like it's real life shit. They talk today, tomorrow, a nigga gets arrested. Even Ket Matala now. Ket Matala, yeah, yeah. He just said fuck the plea deal. He said fuck the plea deal. 73:58 Yeah, he said fuck the plea deal. They said no, we want to give you, they said fuck HS, we want to give you a minimum of 12, 8 is too lenient. Then he said, okay, fuck the plea deal. He's going to fight it. Now he's going to fight it. So now he's just fighting. 74:12 Yo, but he might be watching the show because you said some shit like that. He was like, yo, you must stand on business. I remember you said that. So maybe he's what? Shout out to Cat. We love you, man. 74:21 You're our favorite. I think he's at the West Prison. 74:26 But he's Cat. Yeah, but he's Cat. But he's Cat. He's Cat. He's Cat. 74:29 Just like how you said, I'm Vinny. Yeah, yeah. 74:32 Isaac. 74:33 Yeah. 74:34 Exactly. No, no, he's cat. But don't you watch like, um, like gangster films, like mafia, like growing up, those are my favorite films. That wasn't the thing for you? 74:43 I do. I do. I do. I do like that type of ish. 74:46 You still like, yeah, that's why the McLennan commercial, but they're no more, they're no more, I become like that. 74:49 They no more make them the way. That's my problem. They don't, they don't make them the way. think me the last thing for me that ever felt like those gangster type of movies no like you see the city's narcos like they kind of like they kind of went in hard like you could feel like you know something this is what you're saying and it's the same way i feel the reason why they're not hitting the same way is because 75:09 Because the stories are finished Yeah They've told all the stories About the real gangsters And have told them In so many ways Pablo Escobar All these guys They've told every single story You know So now that it's like Now they get into like Fictional shit Where it's like the fake Fake stories And it's like Kind of really relates To this shit I'm gonna speak on that Since I'm an actor I think There are creatives Who are writing the stories 75:35 I think every story, there's nothing new under the sun. Everything has been written, but we haven't heard everything. I hear what you're saying when you're saying fictional, and I do see that. 75:45 Look at the polygamous, because that book has been there for a long time. I didn't know about the book. I only found out about the book when I watched the series. The story has been out there, but just because we didn't know the story, when we saw it, we were like, wow, this is the shit, you know? 76:00 So I agree. I agree with that. What I would say is they need to find a new... They need to find new stories. 76:06 Like, give us new stories. Like, they're there. The people who need to open the gates are not... They're not taking the risk. They're not taking... Yeah, yeah, yeah. The production companies. Yeah, it's the legacy shit. 76:16 You know, I feel like a lot of these production companies... And correct me if I'm wrong. You might know more. But I feel like... Don't you feel like these production companies stockpile scripts? 76:26 Like, over years? Yeah. 76:28 Don't you feel like that's part of their game? Like they just buy up whatever they feel like might be dope one day. 76:33 And then it sits on the shelf. I heard somebody say that about 50 Cent in the music. So I think I get why you would say that. And let me tell you a personal story because I can't really speak much on it. I don't really know exactly. I've been in a game for four years. It's not that long for me to have that much in-depth understanding. But there's this guy who approached me a while back. I was at the gym. Saw me pumping some weights and he's like, yo, bro. I've seen you, Ish. I love your work, man. I actually got a script. Boom, boom, boom. This is what it's going to look beautiful. Bigger. I'm predicting this. Bigger than the Jonah story. 77:03 Mm-hmm. 77:04 But the bro sold it to Showmax. The story went MIA. He can't get it back now. Showmax has gone off the grid. So the stories are... Bro, when I saw the pilot, he shot the pilot with Showmax in him. 100%. You know, I hope the homie's watching. Lutando, shout out to you, bro. 100%. And I feel like a lot of those type of stories are happening with a lot of people. The people who can open the gates are not letting them open sooner for the stories that we need to hear. 77:27 And speaking about Janasi, he was in Dumo. Ustumo Ustumo Ustumo Charlie or something Yeah right Shout out Shout out my G He said he wants to come to the show Yeah he's been following We've been following each other for like Yeah Maybe like Plus 8 years You know he's always been a real Dope Dope nigga But I love I love the The second Series that he's in What's it called? 77:52 Four of Us Four of Us right? 77:53 Four of Us But I hate Shout out Tim Bukosi Whoever the fuck The producers are Fuck Like, I hate how rushed... You guys made everything. Why is everyone hating that show? Like, because it's rushed. Versus the polygamists, right? The polygamists, everything, it happens in such a natural way, right? The four of us, your brew, what's his name? Yeah, that brew. In one scene, he'll be arguing with his brother. Literally, the next scene, he pulls up on a nigga and slaps him. 78:24 So there's no build-up. 78:26 There's no build-up on it. 78:28 How many hours... 78:31 Like, literally, you'll be telling your sister, yo, stay away from this nigga. Next scene. Yeah. Like, bro, that's not you rushing it. But that's the thing also. And that's not him. It's a script thing. And a production thing. It's the producers. It's a production and script, yeah. We don't have time. 78:46 we don't have time someone watching the edit saying no we don't have time you know what I mean and that kills it's a team behind the people we never see and it kills it's like yo you can tell the people that the production behind the polygamous you can see the heart you can tell that these people shot the scene a shit load of fucking times dog you can tell like these guys went in on this cake scene it wasn't it looks like he did it once he probably didn't do it once Get what I'm saying? I get you. He probably cleaned up, they cleaned it, they cleaned everything up, and they went in again until you can see the dedication in the polygamist. 79:21 You just made me realize something. You know that a thousand, a hundred thousand hour rule or whatever it's called? Ten thousand. Ten thousand, you do so much only to spend a second. Yes. People are going to watch this podcast for just an hour, but they don't know what goes on in the back end. Yes. The producers, the camera, the staff, shout out to everybody there, everybody here. You know what I mean? Lelo. Yes. 79:40 Yes. 79:41 Yeah, everybody, even the editor. 79:45 It makes me think now as an actor, I've never heard it being said like this. You as the actor are kind of like wearing the sins and the victories of what everybody else is behind. Because when people say, you did so great on Yes, he acted. He reset the lines that were said. He made them believe it. He embodied it. What about the costume designer? 80:06 What about the costume designer? 80:08 The costume. Art director. 80:09 The freaking... The angles. The music. Yeah. It's like the whole thing, bro. And when it goes wrong, too, you have to wear the seams. And when it goes wrong, you gotta wear the seams. 80:18 So, I love it and I hate it for him because... Yo, dog, it's your time to shine right now. And that back-to-back victory. That back-to-back energy. We need more of that. That's some superstar shit. We need more superstars. We need more superstars. Level shit like that. I was like, damn, this nigga's taking over the whole fucking country. The whole world, bro. 80:41 It's been trending, bro. 80:43 100%. 80:43 Right? But when it came to the four of us it was like damn bro we just came off the polygamist you inside the four of us you're amazing yeah he's amazing he even your book amazing but the whole thing when you combine the whole thing it's not flowing then you see the gaps and you're like guys why are we moving so fast maybe maybe the budget wasn't allowing maybe and it's always a chance and it's always a chance i'm sure it's always the thing would you would you act 81:09 I mean, I went to the National School of Arts for acting, but I mean, I felt out of love. I don't know of it. I did go for an audition the other day for some... But are you too much... 81:19 Okay, let me ask you this. I'm sorry to cut you. 81:21 Are you too much of a superstar to sit in an audition room? I think I did. I think I did sit in an audition room. You didn't like it, no? I said, like, when I was young, like, I said for so long, I was like, nah, fuck this shit, bro. Like, these niggas ain't choosing me. 81:38 Because they kept choosing the same niggas that were in my class. 81:41 We can't take rejection the same way once we made it, bro. 81:43 Yeah, but I made it bigger. I made my name after this. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Once you've made it. 81:47 Yeah, so maybe that's the reason why you fell out of love with it. 81:51 Yeah, but I mean, I went recently for audition. And then, yeah, they didn't call me back. So I take it. 81:57 But at least you went for the audition. 81:58 Yeah, I did. I did sort of my pride. I did go for that audition. 82:02 Who you signed with? Do you have an agency? It's an acting agency. No, no, I don't. Ah, come on. 82:07 I don't know. 82:07 Come on, I can't take you serious. This thing is, to take you serious, you gotta have an agency. You gotta start there. If you want to be an actor. 82:14 I would want a cameo role, bro. I would want like something. You could kill it, bro. You could have a whole thing, my man. 82:19 Don't you have to audition for a cameo role as well? Unless you're playing you. They can call you. Unless you're playing you. 82:23 They can call you. My first gig, nigga, this is when I had like 600 followers on IG. 82:28 Oh, really? 82:28 I literally got a cameo role. I got called up to act as BU. 82:31 That's what I'm saying 600 followers It doesn't make sense But that makes sense to me If they're calling you To be you To be If they're calling you To be yourself Yes Why would you need to audition? 82:43 No, but you could still suck At being you No, no, no Trust me I sucked Trust me You can suck But they're gonna make it easy on you 82:49 they're gonna try they're gonna try but like directors directors and script writers like they have different like they have like the certain people and a certain way of the person to act and then the way the person is really like I'm not like this I wouldn't say this and then when you're looking at it and if the character doesn't reflect the script then it's it's different the character description Vinny if someone was to walk up to you and say Vinny what do you do 83:14 What do you actually do? What do you? What are you? 83:19 Vinny, let me make this one. You're meeting the love of your life's family, the moms and the pops, and they're shaking your hand, and you're sitting down for dinner. 83:28 And they say, so, nice to meet you. 83:29 We've heard so much about you, but we want to hear from you. What do you do? 83:32 Yo, guys. I'm a businessman. That's the worst. She put it in the worst situation. They're like, I understand. I'm a businessman. I'm an entrepreneur. 83:42 One time. And the pops is like, I'm into mining and coal and all that. What type of business? So tell him, walk me through it. Walk me through what you do. 83:50 I'm on the entertainment side. Father, I'm a, you know. okay some days i'm in uh i'm a i'm a i'm a rapper you know sometimes i do music yeah for those who don't know i actually have like a plaque but i've never like taken it out why you're too cool you're too cool a plug a plaque like i actually like why haven't you posted the plaque right i haven't posted the plaque it's because i'm not that type of nigga you see now it's people are forcing me to say this type of shit you get what i mean yeah niggas i'ma be noted on your niggas You're gonna be naughty. I'm gonna be naughty and you're all fucking niggas, bro. 84:23 So I have a plaque, bro. I think I'm... Yeah, man, you've been releasing some music. Yeah, so I have a plaque. What else? Oh, you said if they ask me what I do, yeah, father, I'm a... You're a businessman, so, yeah. I'm a businessman, I'm a fashion designer father. I do fashion host parties, the illest parties that you'll ever come to, you know, more all around. I got to do anything. I'm the face of anything. I can be the face of anything. Vodacom, we sell. We can even sell a fineral pala if we need to sell a fineral pala. 84:56 We can make it happen. I sell. I do everything. 84:59 I do everything. 85:00 I will sell. I think if anybody has seen on my page, like whatever brand, I sell anything. I can, tomorrow if you say we're gambling, we're selling gambling. Vinny, don't you feel like that's a quick road to destruction though? No, I mean, selling is like, you know, okay, I'm sorry. 85:19 People, if you really understand branding for what it is, guys, you don't have to keep the company. If you have looked at all the American corporations and everything, there's a time where they have to release it to someone. And then that person re-used that thing, makes it something new. And then we forget about that this was this thing. But when you realize, okay, Twitter was Twitter the other day. Now it's X. 85:47 It's gone. We only know that it was Twitter because that's why your psychologist is telling you that. By now, it's no more yours. It's Elon Musk's. He does whatever he does there now. You know, that's why people are earning money off hate and everything. Like, shit is changing. You know what I mean? So that's why you see, like, even News24 is playing, like, these games. Like, the game is changing. Like, everything is just giving... 86:10 If I was a father, I'd want to ask you next. Sorry to cut you, bro. I'd want to ask, in Aries' words, what's your five-year plan? What's my five-year plan? Yeah, man. 86:23 My five-year plan is only me and I know. You can never expose what you have to do. 86:29 I've always made the worst decision by always exposing what I need to do. Like all the time, I say, no, you know what? Hey, next month I want to buy a thingy. Bro, just watch and then just like and see, you know? 86:41 You tell the father this. People here are banned by Allah. Yeah. 86:43 Tell the father this. Bro, witchcraft is a real thing. 86:49 It's a real thing. 86:50 It's a real thing. Come out here. I'll be like, yo, no, I'm wishing for a limbo. Next thing, I never see a limbo. The only time I see a limbo is touching it by the glass. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Can't be me, bro. 87:00 Can't be me. Is that the most extreme experience you've had with witchcraft? Not really. 87:06 Can you share one? No, no, no, no. Oh, you haven't had some real shit? What, witchcraft? Yeah, you should. I remember what you said. I mean, I'm black. I'm black to believe it. My mom tells me, you know, when you have a mom, of course, a mom will always tell you all this. 87:17 When have you seen it with your eyes to the point where you're like, yes, I have to believe it right now. I've never seen it with my eyes, but I believe that it can happen, you know? 87:24 I don't downplay it. 87:25 When you see it with your eyes. 87:26 I don't downplay those Daily Sun stories, you know? They must not have a fan out of me. 87:33 I don't ever doubt those stories because it can happen, you know? 87:36 Yeah, it can happen. Filming. 87:38 Yo, I'll go first with this one. Yeah, please, Doug. Hey, well. Hey, brah. Okay. So this is to be you. 87:45 What would you do? 87:47 What would it take for you to take a shot? 87:50 Yo, that's a good word. Shit. 87:54 Like in life, dog. What would it take in life for you to take a shot? What would it take? Your son being born? I've never thought of this. Your son being born? 88:03 Because you can drink when you're celebrating. You can drink when you're going through a hard time. Yeah. 88:07 Yeah, but I don't think you're that weak enough to do that just because you're going through a tough time. 88:13 I think you're the type to take in a celebratory moment. The thought crossed my mind when I was in the car after I got you. 88:19 But your mind was going crazy. Yeah, I was bringing myself back to myself. Yeah, you're right. You get what I'm saying? 88:24 Um, marriage. On my marriage day, when you niggas was all there, I'm taking a shot. 88:31 Shout out to you, baby. You know who you are. So every time BU gets married, you get a shot. Every time? Every time? 88:41 We don't know how many times you're going to get married. We don't know the bad time. 88:46 Guys, you guys all right? Tejo hates me. 88:50 What they said that in the comments? 88:58 No, I don't know. I'm sure I was watching the episode. You know, you're analyzing everything while just being said about you. So I'm on the comments there camping with my account. 89:08 I'm just seeing everybody Just talking about How you and Boo And I'm like No guys man It's just the show It's nothing deep Yeah Vinny And I'm so glad You said that Because dog Listen dog If Vinny has the balls To come here While going through Something so crazy This should like Wake you niggas up To what is actually Happening here bro Put the power back In your own hands No This is not This is not podcasting chill dog This is not Mack G Saying some wild shit dog Come on And maybe the name Is what makes you guys Like you know what I mean But no dog Like BU had smoke outside We speak about it Mmm Vinny's got smoke in his personal life We speak about it When the conversation is about me Whether I have a girlfriend Or I don't have a girlfriend We speak about it dog You get what I'm saying But we speak about it respectfully I'm so glad that We've never had a moment Where someone has had to get up And walk off Oh, we did. 90:02 The first app was... No, like, you guys... No, yeah, yeah. That was you. 90:06 I was like, that was a prank. Oh, yeah. Like, everybody was so skeptical when I was telling everyone. I'm like, no, I'm going to a podcast. And then they were like, you're going to a podcast? What are you going to... I'm like, yo, guys, like, it's just toho. 90:19 Like, it's the bad day because I... Let's be honest. Podcasts in South Africa. Yeah, yeah. We're all about the numbers. We're all about toxicity. You said ho, gossip. You know what I mean? So I get why they would say that. 90:28 You don't have a problem with that word. The all I don't like to I'm talking about the perception Right I'm not talking about What the fact is Or how many Because we have We have McFarlane We do We have Sizwe Mpufu Yo Sizwe Mpufu We have like We have so many DJs that guy That are not DJs boo But I'm talking about the numbers You're talking about the niggas with the numbers. 90:49 That is being spicy. Let me make an example. That is being spicy. You see... This only applies to niggas with numbers. No, I'm talking... No, hear me out. I'm talking about... Okay, I'm a huge fan. I forget his name. But he was born in Botswana. But he's in the UK now. This black guy has a podcast called The Diaries of a CEO. 91:10 I don't remember his name. Right? You guys don't know it. That guy sits with geniuses, like people who live, who are like pros in their field and they just have a conversation. And the conversation, when you, if you watch it from beginning to end, your life will change. You will change the way you view things, bro. You won't sit there and be like, ah, that was great. Ah, that was, oh, comment, I tell you, I can do that. It's Steven Bartlett. 91:38 I know that name. 91:38 Yeah, Stephen Bartlett. Stephen Bartlett. 91:40 Stephen Bartlett, we need you on the show when you come to South Africa. 91:43 I believe you'll pull up on us. You're from? Yeah, yeah. 91:46 And we can handle that intellectual shit too, so for sure. Yeah. 100%. 91:50 I believe in you. You could do that. 91:51 For sure. Did you read your question already? Yeah, I started. I was taking a shot. And then what was, you took a shot? No, taking a shot. Oh, yo, you answered the question. Always forget, bro. You always forget shit. I was thinking about Hubby. I was literally thinking about, you know what, I want to smoke something right now. 92:07 Really? Now we need Hubby. Hubby actually would be a vibe. 92:10 You can't, you can't. Yeah, we need Hubby. You had a new law about vaping. Yes. You can't vape no more. It's illegal. 92:17 You can't vape in public spaces anymore. 92:19 What? 92:20 In South Africa? Yeah. 92:21 When did they pass that law? Now they're removing all smoking sections inside like restaurants. They can't be any smoking sections inside anymore. 92:29 That's for the great cause of the people. 92:31 Yeah. 92:33 All the vapors. Hey, yeah, it's late. 92:36 You're actually so funny, bro. 92:37 Like, I definitely had the wrong perspective of you, man, dude. I don't lie. You know what's the problem? People always assume that because I know the way I walk around, you know, the way I carry myself. You're easy to hate, bro. I'm easy to hate and also I'm min-magging. Most probably, if you've seen me walk around, you say that I'm loud. If I'm not loud, I'm walking with it. Especially when he's late. 92:57 Yeah. Especially when you're out lit. Let's talk about lit. Have you ever hit some ish? 93:02 Guys, this has to be really cleared out. I've never done any drugs, bro. The only thing I do is the most normal thing that everybody does. Weed and alcohol, bro. I swear to God, what else do they need? 93:15 bro like you want me to go to Sanka like you want me to go like wait one more bro like the whole assumption of always everybody thinking that I'm doing something you would do a drug test oh man I didn't know about that I didn't know about that I've never heard or seen that maybe I don't read comments maybe I don't know you don't read that it's just been something I've heard when this shit was coming out Some other niggas were out there, they're like, yeah, this nigga, we've seen this nigga do cocaine. Nigga, who the fuck have you seen? But the way you dance on stage, though, the way this guy dances on stage is like he's on something, man. 93:46 He's lit, bro. 93:47 He's lit. I come from my art school, bro. There's a difference between Cabello and Uncle Vinny. Uncle Vinny, when he goes on stage, is not there for you to forgive you. You get what I mean? Uncle Vinny is there to torture you and fuck you up, unfortunately. And that's the one. It's personal with that guy. You get what I mean? But when I get off that stage, I become Cabello and I go do my own things. That's the person that Sehoi and them meet. And the children, they know. You get me? When I get into trouble, that's why they know. They know, man. The Uncle Vinny part, of course, he's a dickhead. When I'm on stage, bro. You know you're a dickhead. 94:18 Yeah. Bro, like, it's a character, bro. This thing when we're doing this shit is not like people... When I go back home, that's when I can relax. I can be Gabelo. I see. That's why niggas are even surprised. I can watch Politics, Madanga Commission, and all that shit. That's me. That's my personal life. You get what I mean? But when I'm going out... It's a character. It's Uncle Vinny. You put up this person because, you know, these niggas... Gotta know, bro. You feel me? That's the shit. Yeah, you feel what I'm saying? Gotta recognize. It's a persona. Yeah, it's a persona. 94:48 I could argue to say all musicians are somewhat actors inherently. At some point, you feel me? 94:54 It's like we don't have a choice. 94:56 You get me? It's like how... It's easy, like, I can't even explain it. It's like with the Casper in your vest, like, if you have chill with Casper, like, on the personal level, you could say, bro, that guy is a normal nigga. Wait until he steps outside. Oh, no. That's the guy who filled up FNB. Listen, that guy is the most normal. You get what I mean? You see, you wouldn't like that guy. Yeah, you would. 95:17 Because that guy will guard at you. 95:19 Like, you see with Casper. If you're sitting here, that's like a lot of niggas. 95:22 You fool me. It's like when you're sitting with your... 95:24 He can be just like a normal nigga. You can even hate, I know he's going to hate me. There's another time where we went to go buy a McDonald's, where he ate two McFist. I will never forget that day. He rocked me that day. I said, damn, bro. This nigga is just like a normal nigga. You know, he's a normal nigga. He's a normal, normal nigga. You feel me? So you start to understand that, oh shit. It's a facade, yeah. We all here, bro, to do work, bro, you know? You see, like, when it's outside, it starts singing, it's no more now than T'Chul on the podcast. 95:57 You know, it's now T vocals. It's the real guy now. It's with the Hennessy. 96:02 Oh, Stilo's song. Yeah, Stilo's song. Yeah, I remember that. It blew me. Yeah, Stilo. 96:07 Oh no, the wrong person you gave this. 96:09 The wrong fucking dog. Should I just steal a man? Should I just steal a guy? 96:14 Should I take stealer and think that stealer is lying? Actually, I was at stealer store every time, every after school. Yeah. Yeah, stealer was my or one of my OGs. Main show every time, groom me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just a pity that the stories I've never told the side, but there's so many people who play the role. Like, there's so many niggas. What's the tech will do for you? 96:34 Seco was there. 96:37 The niggas are just like, if they see me, I'm outside. They would make sure, like, if they came in with their pass, they're going to make sure that I have access. 96:45 I'm pretty sure Vinny, I'm like, just jump in. And I would jump in, you know. It's that kind of community. Same with the twins. I could do the same thing with the twins. I could be like, Jens, where you going? 96:55 I'm in here. My bus is too far. 96:58 Hey, you know what I mean? For me to blow up the... For me to blow up, the crazy thing is that I was writing prelims and I was going to members only. You get it? And they were like, they were all asking me like, Vinny, Aren't you writing Williams in that September? And bro, I was at Members Only. I was like, I can't miss this for a moment. Like nobody can tell me what's going on. We were like really outside. But the way I did my thing, I made sure that I passed. Because if I passed, that's the only way I can treat with business. If I don't pass, then I'm cooked. 97:29 I'm fried. 97:29 Nah, you're going to be cooked. But I think what helped you at the end of the day is you building the brand from before you had to pass anyway. Yeah, yeah. Because let's say there's a world where you didn't pass. 97:39 Shit. Shit. Yeah, you know what I mean? You were still on a trajectory. No, because I knew I wouldn't be able to afford the university fees because my marks wouldn't be the marks. Did you go to university? NSA is like meaningful for dramatic arts and everything. You qualify. No, he's gone. No, I have. I have. 97:57 so you quantify like some other courses that they teach you that they already teach you in the university it's like a bridging mythology I learned about Greek mythology like I went in so deep like I'm a full thespian like I went in so deep like I did was I did all those things like I was like really about it because my childhood was like theatre so my whole entire life is all about been about performing so the me it's always been me and the stage so it's been me and the stage like that's the only thing I breathe I eat if you put me on the stage that's why the most craziest moment I think opening for Chris Brown that happened that was crazy I saw that I saw you that was crazy that was crazy I saw a video of it just the other day and I was like actually no cause that day the twins no the twins were quite actually fucked up because the twins were like nah we're bringing everyone to the stage I was like but your niggas don't trust me like hold down the whole show to help this 98:52 thing. 98:53 And I got so mad. I was like, you know what? I'm going to show these niggas. And I remember Pory saying, no, no, no, no, poison. And I was like, damn, which means this performance was so crazy. After when I performed for 80,000 people, I just said in my mind, I was like, there is no one. 99:12 But that was a blessing in the sky, don't you think? Because you gave that moment everything in you. Yeah, it was crazy. 99:17 And that's why it became a crazy moment. Yeah, the adrenaline was crazy because the first day, I was like, it was raining. So it was slippery. And I was wearing a very tricky outfit. So I was wearing a Makosa outfit. I came there very bougie, like, I wanted to show a statement. And then I realized, like, nah, man. You gotta turn up. 99:32 I actually need to be comfortable. 99:34 I was like, you know, I'm gonna wear these tekis and I'm gonna wear the most not appealing outfit on that stage. But it's gonna look nice. But... I need to dance you get me then I don't know they generally just push and then the reception that I received from 80,000 I was like another year before I was just watching Casper and you guys were all like maybe like six of y'all on the stage now I was the one opening for Chris Brown that shit fucked my mind I won't lie until this day I was like Damn, bro. 100:04 And I actually got to meet the guy and it was even like a better experience. Oh, that's dope. That's dope. What's your question? That's dope, man. Thank you for sharing that, man. 100:11 Yeah, that's dope. Put your mic closer. Thank you. 100:13 All right. Yo, this one is very tricky, guys. Yo. 100:17 Who is the one person you text or call the second you get tipsy that you know absolutely you should live alone? 100:24 Yandawood! I'm joking. 100:26 I'm joking. Answer that, bro. 100:28 We need your hands. I'm sure you still DM Yandaw, Doug. 100:30 No, no, no. 100:31 She actually... 100:32 I don't know. Yeah, she DM you? I don't know. She was so heartbroken to the point that she blocked me and then we never followed each other ever again. So we've never got... Got back. we've never got time to even like have a chat like chat like it's always like i see an interview or something like bam like oh yeah vini did this and then i'll be like oh cool here we go i came for it you know so who's the who's the first person who's the first person when you get tipsy that i shouldn't call is the question is that you do call like when you get when you're getting a little tip like the person you miss when you're like i'm late a little bit let me hit you up wow oh no No, I don't have a phone. 101:09 And I haven't been drinking as more often the way I was. Because my phone is destroyed, you know. What do I call? 101:18 Oh, no. 101:18 I really didn't have the season. 101:28 Cause you were in a relationship. 101:29 You were in a relationship. 101:31 But you did have though. 101:32 Like we need an answer. 101:33 Your girl was the person. Nah, come on. Let him answer. 101:36 I would say my girl at that time was, of course. Before. You know, all push come to shove. You're coming out at OKO. You're like, yo, you're looking at it. The situation now is actually not the one. Actually, where's my hand? You go, of course. That's the person that you gotta go to. Cause I wasn't really like. Take a shot, my brother. Activity. 101:54 Take a shot, my brother. 101:56 Take a shot, my brother. You think I'm lying? 101:59 No, I'm saying that answer is like my girlfriend. 102:02 I'll take a shot with you too, don't worry. 102:04 I'm strong for it. 102:06 I wasn't cheating, you know? You're going to take a shot of your tea. 102:09 I'm always taking a shot of my tea. 102:11 No, we need concoction here all the time. Okay, my question. Skull. 102:23 That's what Thor does. My question. 102:25 Who was the first girl who hit you up when they found out you were single? 102:30 This is a chicky one because it came in trills. No, but who's the first? 102:35 We want to know. 102:36 I don't know who the first was because it came like... You hear what I mean? It was like a money machine. 102:41 It's like counting, nigga. It's like girls figure it out when you're actually like, you're in the verge of a breakup. You know what the problem was? They kept track on this podcast. 102:53 So we kept on talking about it. I kept on asking. I was poking a bear. 102:55 He kept asking and I'm like, I don't know if I'm in a relationship. The next week he would ask and I'm like, we're still figuring it out. The next week he would ask. I'm like, I'll tell you next week. The next week I'm like, I'm single. Then... And then I clapped, and everyone was like, no, nigga. Yo, I do want to say, like, on that topic, I do want to say, girls, what do you think is going to happen when you break up with your nigga? 103:11 What? I mean, I don't know. 103:13 What do you think is going to happen when you break up with your nigga? I feel like so many women break up with their niggas thinking he's just about to chill. 103:18 Oh, no. Thinking he's just about to chill and relax. How long should you wait, then? What the hell? 103:24 Why even expect that I wait? What do they expect? 103:25 I'm just saying, I see this all the time. 103:27 Are you allowed to date, bro? 103:28 Am I allowed to date yourself because we've got to date? 103:32 Vinny are you dating right now? Nah bro I'm out I'm healing bro I'm seeking for professional help I'm healing bro I went through it I'm fine I don't think anyone wants to have fun with me right now I need to heal nicely Vinny can I tell you what I see for you now? 103:55 The thing is We didn't get too much Into the story of Who this lady was Like her characteristic What her background is We didn't get too much Into it right But what I will say Is Vinny What I see for Niggas your age Is Maybe let me say more specifically in the position that you're in, dog. We were having this conversation outside when you were talking about how you being around women was an issue, right? And I said the same thing to you. And I said, yo, me, I had to learn that I cannot be with a woman who's going to make an issue about me being around other women. 104:29 I am who I am. I have built my brand up to a point where usually I'm always around women, dog. We cannot be in a successful relationship if you don't even want to be like, you know what, I have to be strong enough to understand that when Vinny gets on stage, before he jumps on that stage, there's probably women... 104:48 right behind him dog like i think you know i think anyone who who has known me like i'm the guy who ended the pandemic of the the the last niggas bro i put it out now but i think you saw that from niggas like me and ricky to tell you the truth i think i think we brought you up properly because you see now i don't want to incriminate i was with a real handsome fella bro i was with a real nigga bro like See, Rick Mowles. No, listen, listen. 105:15 Me and Ricky did our things apart and then we did them together. But me and Ricky, the one thing that we had, and it's not even to say incriminate, and I think Auntie B knew this as well, that we come from the school of taking care of women. 105:29 Yeah. We will take care of you. You see, if you're coming from the school of the twins. Yeah, of the real. Of the real. 105:39 You don't have to be doing anything. We're going to take care of you. But we are like, we're taking care of you. 105:46 I'll send you an Uber home. 105:48 You didn't come with me. 105:50 You were saying something and he said he put you on. 105:52 I think that mentality when he was like, less niggas. I think we had to, he saw that from us. I mean, it's like even twins, even Dr. Pepper. Yes, from the niggas. 106:02 I can never forget Uncle Pepper. How are you, Uncle Pepper? I hope you well. 100%. 106:08 You know, he got that thing from the niggas because we would also be like, nah, niggas, too many niggas. What's going on? 106:12 Yes, too many niggas, you know. It's like, We could never do that. For me, even, that's why niggas hate me so much because I would never chill with niggas, bro, because it never dwells with me. Yeah, I love female energy too much. I'm sorry. Most of the times he's never seen me, I've only, most probably, have female friends. Like, can find me, like, seven females. And when you see me, you know, it's the same thing. It's the same thing, nigga. You get me? You know? And we can chill. Like, it's not like I'm with the... 106:39 with that person or anything so me personally I'm done being with women that I need to tiptoe around when it comes to that fact personally in my older age I'm not as bad as Vinny because I feel like Vinny is bad like where he doesn't communicate it Me have communicated it. I need to communicate it even more now from the jump. The only way you're going to survive this is if you can survive. You understand what's going on around. But before we wrap up, Vinny, thank you so much for coming to All The Smoke. 107:09 Before we wrap up, we have the section called All The Smoke. What's your smoke for the week, right? It could be anything. It could be something positive, negative, something that you saw this morning. It could be Madlanga Commission. Whatever that's on your mind that you either want to share, tell. You watch the show, you know what's up. 107:22 Yeah, I'll watch the show, man. Thank you, B.U. Yeah, you know, he said he watched the whole L. I watched the show. It's not like it's even the first episode I watched. 107:32 Oh, you're a flamer. Shut up. 107:36 Bro, like I'm always on TV, bro. Like there's nothing. YouTube. YouTube is a new TV. If you guys are giving us, if podcast MCG is giving us all the platforms, they say, oh, this is the show. But I was like, oh, all about the smoke. Okay. When I'm tired of just hearing Sol and MCG. Yeah, you go to the next one. Yeah, you go to the next one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't want to watch my ex on spreading humors. 107:54 I just offload here. I've never heard Mac G laugh so much at Sway Lee. That nigga was laughing, bro. 108:02 He was tickled. 108:04 That nigga was laughing. 108:06 But it happens, bro. You know when you meet her? Isn't it funny, Sway Lee? I know that thing, bro. 108:15 You can just start laughing, bro. You know, you're just enjoying the moment. 108:19 I have so much admiration for this person. 108:21 I've had that type of typical experience when I went to Paris Fashion Week. You were tickling people also. No, I was like laughing so much. I think it was when I saw YG. I remember I was just like smiling, just like so star-faced. And I was just chilling there. And then they're like, yo, Vinny, you want to take a picture? And you just forget yourself because you're just like in the moment, bro, you know? Also, it comes out at that moment. Yeah, you're happy. Because you're just like... Think about it. I've never taken a Swae Lee. For a person like Mekji was building a network, you're just like casually now getting the interview with Swae Lee in your home country, your home ground. 108:54 And you are being like... 108:57 put on like, not really put on, but like, you're considered the main podcast that the niggas have to run through you and not mainstream. It's a busy one or some shit like that. Morning live or TV. 109:08 Before you give us your smoke, on that point, I want to say shout out Nate Dog. That's my boy. That's my white boy. That's my daughter's godfather. He's the one that secured that interview. 109:19 Shout out Nate, man. We love you. 109:21 Real nigga. You've seen him on Music Pulse talking about it. He's documentary on Channel O about the music video. He's the one that tells no to chill. He chill. 109:30 You get what I'm saying Shout out to He's the guy that shot Every single video I have Every single hit video of mine He shot Like since the beginning Uprooted media That's my nigga Uprooted media Him and Tebza Love you guys down But yeah Do you have the smoke for the week Or do you want him to go first Or do you want me to go first I'll go first and then yeah And then I'm gonna My smoke is obviously Oh obviously What I'm gonna talk about bro Racist ass fucking cops If you know those cops I'm opening a freaking What's this What's it called 109:56 A case, right? I've never done one before. I'm opening a case. 110:00 Can I ask you a question? 110:01 Did you stop at the guardhouse or did you stop in front of this gate? 110:05 Guardhouse. They should have some cameras there. You think so? They should have some cameras. But it's a red... He has red... He's a ginger. He's a white boy. He's a white guy. Short hair. 110:18 He has like a scar, almost like he's burnt in his face. A very angry, very red birthmark on his face and a lady with dark hair. If you know, in the comment section, I'm going to look. If you know this guy. In an unmarked car. In an unmarked police car. Pulled out a gun at me and pointed at me. I wish I was recording afterwards. I was like, why the hell? 110:37 You're overtaking. First of all. 110:39 For all I take No lights They didn't turn lights on Nah, there was just a normal car Yeah, crazy You know, so If you know who they are Tell me where they are And I will take them to court for real Yeah, nah Thank you very much 100% You got one or you want me to go? 110:52 My smoke is basically All young niggas Stay fresh and fly And pray And just make sure you just Don't fuck the wrong girl That's it Perfect, nigga Perfect That's it No, sorry, actually. I didn't frame it. No, no, no. 111:11 No, for real. Don't fuck the wrong girl. Don't apologize. That's really important. Actually, beyond the fucking, because the fucking is not what niggas stay for. Niggas fuck first, and then at some point in time, you regard this person as your person. And it's very hard. When they say love is blind, it's real. It's so real. And Empty said that a lot. Empty said that. It's very real. You're willing to overlook some things that when B.U. looks at it and he's looking at my relationship, he might be like, are you sure? What's going on? 111:41 But for me, for some reason, I'm like, ah, that's just how she is. You know what I mean? That's the love is blind. But anyway, my smoke for the week. 111:51 There's a lot that happened this week, man. There's a lot that happened this week. But I will say, new event, 3rd of October. Propaganda. Make sure you go and buy tickets. They should be out. By the time you watch this, they should be out. 112:07 BU's going to be there finally. The amount of people that just roll their eyes at home right now. They just roll their eyes at you saying, they're like, oh. But you know what? They wanted to smoke, bro. 112:15 But you know what? You know what's crazy? You don't care. You guys buy tickets. 112:17 No. 112:22 I love that And I love you guys Supporting the merch Also tseho.store You can go get the merch there I'm going to start Actually pressing BU To start selling something 112:34 Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. You get this on camera right there? Oh, is that you? Oh, hold on. Oh, shit. Okay, yeah, there we go. Okay, so BU is going to start the merch journey. And I'm going to be performing. 112:46 I'm going to consult him after this to see where he is on that journey. Help him with his store or whatever. Because, you know, I build my stores by myself. Straight up. And then we'll get to it. But, you know, this is... Guys, we're all trying to do better in this economy. Come on. 112:59 We can't be a one-track mind. Guys, please support me. 113:03 After... I... 113:31 I'm still driving, I'm lying at night. Strip, you're packed up, ass tight. Table dancing, dodging heels. 113:36 Do you know what that's like?